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1. On kinism, Wolf in CN, what’s your take? Is he, despite his denial, maintaining a form of kinism?

   He begins w/ eisegetical arguments that are used by kinists (i.e., ethnic “nations” are a non-racist form of segregation, grounded in the pre-fall administration of the cov. of works, that applies until the 2nd coming). He then goes on to defend ethnic-nation segregation by the erroneous interpretations.

   Yet, some reformed folks are willingly accepting Wolf’s denial.
   • • The CRC Is Right About Kinism (Part One)
     • The CRC Is Right About Kinism (Part Two)
     • More On Christian Nationalist Racism
     • Heidelminicast: Sub-Christian Nationalism (3)
     • Sub-Christian Nationalism? (Part 9)
     • Review: The Case for Christian Nationalism By Stephen Wolfe
     • A Nationalism That Does Not Honor Christ

     Concerning nation and nationalism, he believes that a nation with proper nationalist ideas consists of one ethnicity: nationalism means one ethnicity that is self-conscious and has the right to exist for itself (118). Furthermore, nationalism is rooted in a love primarily for “one’s own.” The term “one’s own” means a distinctive people of the same ethnicity who share language, history, place, memory, and space (120ff). In Wolfe’s view of a Christian nation, “no nation is composed of two or more ethnicities” (135, 139). Thus, mono-ethnic Christian nations can respect each other and make alliances, but “they cannot have a life together that goes beyond mutual alliance” (148)—Shane Lems.

     The message—that ethnicities shouldn’t mix, that heretics can be killed, that violent revolution is already justified, and that what our nation needs is a charismatic Caesar-like leader to raise our consciousness and galvanize the will of the people—may bear resemblance to certain blood-and-soil nationalisms of the 19th and 20th centuries, but it’s not a nationalism that honors and represents the name of Christ.—Kevin DeYoung

2. Final, a question here:

   You mention the phrase “general equity” being grounded in “natural law”. W/o further thought, that makes sense. But you note some historical contexts demonstrating this. For my edification/usage, might you reference some resources?

   • Hi Reed,

     There are several illustrative quotations here.

     • Thx! Just listened to episode 10, where you reference. Gonna dive in.

3. On anti-Semitism, this series having seasoned a bit, it seems you are more on top of a latent necessity than some (sub)CNs want to own. There are a host of fellow travelers (true anti-Semites) that the CNers are sheepish and milktoast in their eschewing. Other CNers seem to want to dissect these fellow travelers “CN” opinions, and pull a meat vs bones application. But, as the whole CN fish stinks, they won’t find that works.

   • Check out Jake Meador’s twitter thread on the ties between CN and anti-semitism and even the neo-Nazi movement. He has also written on this at Mere Orthodoxy.

4. Just now getting to listening to this series. Thought I might post some comments/questions before they slip my mind.

   On “Mere Christendom”, ITSM that on this topic, folks come in one of 2 varieties:

   1) They have not yet worked through the necessary, implications and inferences of their position. When they do, they’ll recognize that they are more consistent with the likes of strict/consistent theonomists/reconstructionists. OR

   2) They have worked through these, do want their version of strict/consistent theonomy/reconstruction, and they’re dissembling like a shady politician who knows he/she won’t get elected by letting their flag fly unfurled.

5. Dear Scott,
   you may be interested in this article: https://reformedlibertarians.com/against-civil-establishment-of-religion/ reflecting on Charles Hodge’s summary argument against civil establishment of religion. We see biblical reason for the task of civil governance to be even more restricted than that held by a “second table” view, and explain part of that reasoning in the article.
   Appreciating your series.

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