In this interview Dr Clark sits down with Pat Abendroth of The Pactum podcast to talk about different types of bad theology: pietism, biblicism, antinomianism, neonomianism, and more.
Here is the audio from the interview:
Here’s the video.
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Very informative/educational and encouraging, as always.
Hello Dr. Clark and all the HRA staff. I hope everything is going great with you all.
I wanted more on the pelagian and semi-pelagian distinction. I thought the real difference was that in pelagianism you can be saved apart from the grace of God. If it is, I don’t believe RC teachs that (what about arminianism?), because the Council of Trent says we need grace, we can’t be saved apart from grace, but it’s not grace alone, okay, so grace + cooperation (semi pelagianism). And I learned that arminianism teaches that you need grace, but you have to do your part, I learned that they teach the previenient grace, but you can fall apart from grace if you don’t persevere (again the same scheme?). I haven’t read the entire piece of the Canons, just some places where they make a clear statement of Pelagian teaching.
Thanks in advance, I hope God continually bless the wonderful work of the HRA.
João de Sousa Luz
Hi João,
The major difference between the Pelgians and the semi-Pelagians is this:
The Pelgians denied that in Adam’s fall we all sinned. The semi-Pelagians (most of the Medieval church) affirmed it but they downplayed the consequences of the fall so that they could argue that we have it within us to cooperate with grace until sanctification/justification.
Trent agreed with Augustine and the Second Council of Orange that we fell with Adam and that grace must come first but they are semi-Pelagian when they say that the effects of the fall are not so great that our free choice is bound to sin.
Arminius and the Remonstrants were more radical than is usually taught. That is why the Synod of Dort called the Pelagians. They were, in important ways, worse than Trent. There is more grace in the Catechism of the Catholic Church than there is in Remonstrant theology.