To a nerdy homeschooled teenager in the deeply churched South, conferences were a normal part of life. I remember singing martial psalms in the Blue Ridge Mountains during an all-day family seminar, being introduced by my pastor-grandfather to Tim Keller at a beachside denominational assembly, and the thunder of fireworks at a Jamestown quadricentennial.
But I would have been shocked, as many were online this week, to discover a conservative protestant conference with a vendor hall table hosted by America’s best-known Neonazi publishing house, stacked with materials glorifying Adolf Hitler. This was reality at the ironically named “The War for Normal” conference in Ogden, Utah. The conference was put on by New Christendom Press, a protestant publishing house associated with a local independent Reformed congregation called Refuge Church.
Refuge’s senior pastor is no more normal than his conference. An iTunes chart-topping Christian musician, Brian Sauvé’s influence stretches far beyond his congregation. He’s a successful podcaster, alongside his co-pastors Eric Conn and Ben Garrett, the creators behind the massively popular “Haunted Cosmos” show that explores the paranormal and a universe that is “not just stuff,” as their stylish branding states.
Not every pastor would issue an hour-long response to the outcry that erupted over the self-labeled Nazi vendor at his conference and largely defend the books. Read more»
Eli McGowan | “Inside ‘The War for Normal’: How a Christian conference ended up selling Nazi propaganda” | The Christian Post | June 19, 2026
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I have a few observations–and I’m someone who may not be altogether an “us” to those pushing a new white racism/nationalism; and for whom I am trying to express a kind of understanding (even if I condemn their doctrines).
We’ve had a long period of time in these United States in which we’ve all been subjected to a barrage of propaganda from Marxists and Marx’s “bast–d children” (Left-wing identity politics, substitution of the gorup-du-jour for Marx’s proletariat). There is a perfectly understandable backlash against it which, unhappily, begets a kind of “sympathy for the devil”.
There is an undercurrent of disparaging things “white” in our general culture. The “white male”is an all-around bogeyman, blamed for all the sexism, racism, homophobi, and everything “uncool”. Young white males are asked to “deconstruct” themselves in a way no-one else is. Hence, it seems there are a lot of younger men out there whose rebellion against the manifold follies of secular liberal/radical culture goes too far.
Consider the [long overdue] reaction against Dispensationalism. There is a kinf of person who goes to Israel expecting to find everyone with eyes on the skies and collecting stones for a Third Temple, but finds an ordinary country with lots of struggles. Our Christian tourist comes home, discovers confessional Protestantism of some form or another, and concludes, “Gee, we’re now free to despise the JOOOOZ again!” Next thing you know, he’s buying into Holocaust revisionism, Hitler-wasn’t-so-bad, etc. Never mind what Paul said in I Cor. 10:32.
Maybe a similar dynamic is at work among those who’ve been taught to honor the Malcolm X’s and Stokeley Carmichaels of the Silly ‘Sixties and Sillier ‘Seventies, and then discover after life in Brooklyn or further reading or a few hard knocks that American minorities aren’t necessarily “enobbled” by a history of suffering–and then the reaction sets in.
I’m not excusing neo-Naziism; indeed I’m utterly appalled at it. But our circles have a few more people subject to extreme passions and extreme reactions than we care to admit.
We Reformed, of all people, ought to be aware that there’s a lurking sinfulness in all of us; that we are called, not because we are more upright than other, for we are a stiff-necked people[ and that in Christ, there being neither Jew nor Greek back in the first century, there ought to be some pretty clear applications to our own ethnically plural context today. That’s part of a Christian “normalcy” in a world rendered abnormal by sin; and that the return to “normalcy” needs to begin in each individual heart.
Peter,
I don’t disagree much with your analysis except to say that, as I tried to suggest in the article, there are good, historical reasons for worrying about the inroads of Nazism into our churches. The demonization of things such as being on time or thinking critically as “white,” is just stupid but it doesn’t present quite the threat that Nazism does. Yes, Communism did plenty of damage in the 20th century, more than the Nazis by the end of the twentieth century but we have very few self-identified Communists or Communist cells in our churches. We do, however, have Nazis and Nazi sympathizers in our churches.
I wrote a fair bit about the so-called social justice movement. I’ve written relatively little about the emerging Nazi threat but now is the time.
Sorry, didn’t fully proof-read.
*Interesting point to note about a sign board posted at the conference being discussed here.
Interesting point to note that a sign board photographed at the conference in question. Besides displaying Antelope Hill Publishing as a sponsor, it also showed that Church and Family Life (formerly the National Center for Family Integrated Churches) and Bohnet Music Academy were sponsors as well.
Church and Family Life started out under Doug Phillips of Vision Forum years ago while Bohnet Music Academy is run by a family in Moscow, Idaho who attend and support Doug Wilson’s church.
What’s wild is if you actually talked to someone who was there at the conference, you’d hear an entirely different story. Crazy the stuff you can assume from a distance.
Eric,
Are you saying that the conference was not actually sponsored by Antelope Hill Publishing and that they did not actually sell books by and about Hitler and other Nazis and that those who put on the conference didn’t actually excuse the promotion of Nazi ideology?
Does one need to put one’s hand in a blender to know that it’s a bad idea?