Catholic-Protestant Differences (Part 1)

I began my teaching career at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. Most of my students elected to attend that seminary; it was not the denominational seminary of any denomination, so choosing to attend there was a choice not to attend a particular denomination’s favored/sponsored seminary. Many, if not most, of my students there were “denominationally fluid,” as it were, curious to discover which aspect of the Christian heritage was their own. This denominational openness, however, was not absolute. Gordon-Conwell Seminary was and is an “evangelical” institution, in the older sense of the term to denote “Protestant.”1 Few students who attended Gordon-Conwell considered converting to Roman Catholicism.2

The last two thirds of my teaching career were at Grove City College, where, on average, 15% of the student body was Roman Catholic. Nearly every year, I had conversations with students who were considering converting to Catholicism or to Protestantism, and I regarded it as my duty as an academic to assist them in thinking well about the matter (though, to my recollection, none ever did think well about the matter). I attempted, unsuccessfully, to suggest that the matter was not to be undertaken lightly, nor, especially, was it to be undertaken merely out of a recent dissatisfaction about their then-present ecclesiastical circumstance. Rather, I suggested that there were at least a dozen differences of a substantial nature between the two traditions, and that an individual should not “convert” from one tradition to the other merely on the basis of one or two of those differences. If an individual is 80% Catholic, he should probably remain Catholic, and if another individual is 80% Protestant, he should probably remain Protestant.

In one Protestant-Catholic dialogue at Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio, I recalled most of the items below from memory during the Q&A Session, and Dr. Alan Schreck (himself Roman Catholic) read a nearly identical list from a book he had written. He wryly observed: “Dr. Gordon and I disagree on a dozen matters; but we agree about the dozen matters about which we disagree.” The list below is my (and Dr. Schreck’s) baker’s dozen of matters that I routinely suggested for the consideration of those thinking about converting. Sadly, I do not recall a single individual who considered all of them before converting in either direction. In fact, if my now-feeble memory serves me well, I do not recall a single individual considering even as many as three of the dozen. I suppose the late Peter L. Berger was right when he observed that, for most churchgoers, religion is not an intelligent concern.3 If religion were to become an intelligent concern for some individuals, the following list might be recommended for their consideration. I will present the list first without comment, and then will comment briefly about several of them for those who may be less familiar with the particular beliefs or practices.

  1. Sale of Indulgences
  2. Pope as the Head of the Visible Church
  3. Transubstantiation
  4. Mass as a Sacrifice
  5. Seven Sacraments or Two Sacraments
  6. Purgatory
  7. Use of Images in Public Worship
  8. Justification by Faith Alone
  9. Infallible Magisterium
  10. Tradition Equal to Scripture
  11. Infrequent Communion (once annually before the Reformation, and only in one kind; now Catholics practice frequent communion, and many Protestants practice infrequent communion)
  12. Ex Opere Operato Efficacy of the Sacraments
  13. Latin Mass (changed at Vatican II in 1963)4

1. Sale of Indulgences

To my knowledge, the sale of indulgences is no longer practiced, but never, to my knowledge, has it been repudiated. The sale of indulgences was the sole subject of Luther’s 95 Theses; historically, this—and the Catholic reaction to it—was the incident that ignited the Reformation.

What is an indulgence? Here is an answer from “Catholic Answers” (hereafter CA):

But in the special sense in which it is here considered, an indulgence is a remission of the temporal punishment due to sin, the guilt of which has been forgiven. . . . It is not an exemption from any law or duty, and much less from the obligation consequent on certain kinds of sin, e.g., restitution; on the contrary, it means a more complete payment of the debt which the sinner owes to God. . . . Least of all is an indulgence the purchase of a pardon which secures the buyer’s salvation or releases the soul of another from Purgatory.5

There are (at least) two major problems with the sale of indulgences: what an indulgence is, and whether such could be bought or sold via money. Protestants do not (universally or consistently) believe that there are “temporal punishment(s) due to sin,” which we take to be a distinctive feature of the Mosaic covenant, in which (Deut 27) the twelve tribes stand and hear twelve curses that will come upon them if they sin in particular ways:

Cursed be the man who makes a carved or cast metal image . . . dishonors his father or his mother . . . moves his neighbor’s landmark . . .  misleads a blind man on the road . . . perverts the justice due to the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow . . . lies with his father’s wife . . .  lies with any kind of animal . . . lies with his sister . . .  lies with his mother-in-law . . . strikes down his neighbor in secret . . . takes a bribe to shed innocent blood . . .  does not confirm the words of this law by doing them. (Deut 27:15–26)

After each of these twelve curses, “all the people” answered and said, “Amen,” solemnly taking upon themselves these threatened curses.

Most Protestants (again, perhaps not universally or consistently) believe what Paul said in Galatians 3:13, “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us,” especially since he just two verses before had cited Deuteronomy 27:26, the final of the twelve curses that Moses had administered. He also referred not to the curses of the law (in the plural), but to the curse of the law (in the singular), addressing the entire cursing dimension of the Sinai covenant as a singular reality from which Christ “redeemed/paid for our release.” Protestants do not believe that there remains, in the new covenant, “temporal punishment due to sin” (although all sin deserves punishment). Protestants do not believe that there is “a more complete payment of the debt which the sinner owes to God” than the payment Christ made on the cross. Further, Protestants do not believe that Christ redeemed us from some, many, or even most of the Mosaic curses, but from the entirety of them (and from the Adamic cursing also). We refer to Christ as “the only Redeemer of God’s elect” (Westminster Shorter Catechism 21), not to him as “the major redeemer of God’s elect.” The notion that you, I, monks, nuns, or any others could redeem us from temporal punishments due to sin (even if such temporal punishments remained as part of our covenant) would make them co-redeemers with Christ.

Secondly, another offensive aspect of the sale of indulgences is that the church would make money by selling to people relief from their sense of guilt. Protestants call all such activity “Simony,” after the Samarian magician who attempted to purchase from the apostles the power to give the Holy Spirit to others (Acts 8:9–24). To prey upon fearful consciences and extract money from them (used, in large part, to pay for the construction of St. Peter’s Cathedral in Rome) is perceived by Protestantism as contrary to him who said, “Freely you have received; freely give” (Matt 10:8).

Notes

  1. The German language still ordinarily employs the term evangelische to mean “Protestant;” and Die Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland has almost twenty-million members.
  2. A notable exception may have been Scott Hahn, who graduated from GCTS in 1982, and converted to Catholicism in 1986. My tenure there began in 1984, so I did not know Scott as a student. He now teaches at Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio, only about an hour away from me, and we occasionally see each other; I regard him as a friend and always enjoy our conversations.
  3. Dr. Peter L. Berger (1929–2017) was a sociologist and theologian, who spent the latter decades of his career at Boston University (he earlier taught at Rutgers and the New School for Social Research). He focused on the Sociology of Knowledge and the Sociology of Religion, and was persuaded that such sociological factors were far more influential than intellectual factors for most people. A similar thesis is promoted by Dr. Alan Jacobs (Baylor) in his How to Think: A Survival Guide for a World at Odds (Currency, 2017), especially chapter 3, “Repulsions,” in which he discusses “the repugnant cultural other,” as a category that influences our beliefs negatively.
  4. In his spiritual autobiography, Nearer My God, William F. Buckley Jr. objected to the vernacular mass, and objected to women not being priests; oddly, he nevertheless continued to believe in an infallible magisterium.
  5. Catholic Answers, s.v. “Indulgences,” accessed August 22, 2025, https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/indulgences. In the interests of fairness, I will ordinarily permit Catholic sources to describe Catholic practices and beliefs.

©T. David Gordon. All Rights Reserved.

You can find this whole series here.


RESOURCES

Heidelberg Reformation Association
1637 E. Valley Parkway #391
Escondido CA 92027
USA
The HRA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization


    Post authored by:

  • T. David Gordon
    Author Image

    Dr. T. David Gordon is a teaching elder in The Presbytery of the Ascension. Before retirement, he taught at Gordon-Conwell Seminary (1984–98) and Grove City College (1999–2021).

    More by T. David Gordon ›

Subscribe to the Heidelblog today!


16 comments

  1. Dr Gordon, thanks for your articles. I live north of Pittsburgh and continue to engage Catholics, a former one myself. I was wondering if you would be up for a dialogue/debate with a seminarian ,Erik Pintar, who is currently studying at St Vincent. Maybe Scott Hahn would be interested? Phil DAmato 412 539-5384.

  2. Over arching theological paradigms seem to be a better way to think of this than individual issues presented separately. If I had to distill the issues to their core, it would probably be the nature of the Church and the content of divine revelation.

    For Catholics Christ founded a single, visible Church that would remain one and the same from the Ascension to the Second Coming: and He promised divine assistance so that it would never fall away. The rest of ecclesiology can be reduced to that; Magisterium, Papacy, and all. It’s a matter of debating the details of the Church Christ founded.

    About revelation; the entire teaching of both Christ and the Apostles must be held on to, both what was taught orally and as well as what was written in Scripture.

    If a person accepts these the rest of Catholicism follows like dominoes. Without them, it’s just whack-a-mole.

    Justification and atonement are important, but come from the above. Catholic teaching on Mary and the saints makes no sense without its understanding of sanctifying grace, where holiness is love, and love comes from God. And the Mass is ridiculous if one believes in penal substitution, but Catholics don’t.

    • Addendum:

      Perhaps a clearer way to say this is there are fundamental issues, then derivative issues. Even issues that are derivative from derivative issues. Like a ladder or a multiple storey building, each level depends on what came before it.

      No one who thinks rightly about this goes from a Mark Driscoll sermon to opening the Bible to see what it says about the sale of indulgences. To do that would be to miss many steps that are necessary for the sale of indulgences to even be a discussion.

      An exception would be if a derivative teaching is patently heretical or idolatrous. For example if someone thinks praying to Mary or worshipping the Eucharist are idolatrous actions, then he can reject the fundamental system that produced them.

  3. I believe I will (gently and respectfully) stand by my comment about 80% v. 20%. If religion is at all an intelligent concern—a matter of conscience—a person cannot pretend to believe something he does not believe. Now, if an individual looked at my dozen doctrines and said, “Well I know the church I attend believes those things, but I have no opinion about them at all,” that would be another situation. But if an individual is persuaded that Catholicism is right on 80% of those matters, how could he “convert” to a system that is 80% wrong?

  4. I dont think it is good Chriatian opinon or attitude to say that if a Catholic is 80% Catholic he should remain so. Surely we should always encourage a Catholic to convert to Chriatianity.

    • Dr. Gordon is right.

      Depending on what the “80 percent” doctrines are which a Roman Catholic believes, while having doubts about 20 percent, most confessionally Reformed churches would refuse to admit such a person to church membership.

      I did my senior thesis on John Henry Cardinal Newman. Maurina is an Italian name. My family can trace its ancestry back over a thousand years in the Italian Alps. I am far from unfamiliar with Catholic doctrine, and the problems with it.

      But the last thing we want to do is accept people into Protestant churches that disagree with 80 percent of what we believe. That is a recipe for disaster.

      • Not membership, sure, but surely don’t we want to encourage these people to attend true worship and sit under the preached word even if they don’t believe? Isn’t this what we should promote for all nonbelievers?

        • Yes, but encouraging Catholics “to attend true worship and sit under the preached word” was not what Dr. Gordon said.

          His words were these: “Rather, I suggested that there were at least a dozen differences of a substantial nature between the two traditions, and that an individual should not ‘convert’ from one tradition to the other merely on the basis of one or two of those differences. If an individual is 80% Catholic, he should probably remain Catholic, and if another individual is 80% Protestant, he should probably remain Protestant.”

          “Convert” means membership. That is something Reformed people simply should not allow unless a person seeking to join our churches actually agrees with what our churches teach.

          Encouraging people to listen to Reformed preaching and read Reformed books is a whole different issue.

          I have a number of Roman Catholic friends, some of them members of the clergy, who watch my evening messages on the Heidelberg Catechism. Because many are used to dealing with broad evangelicals who know little or nothing about basic Christian doctrines such as the Trinity and the need for Christ to be fully human as well as fully divine, a number of my Roman Catholic friends have been surprised by just how “Catholic” the Reformed confessions are. They are used to dealing with evangelicals who can’t articulate basic Christian doctrine, and arguing with evangelicals that their lack of grounding in the historic faith needs to be solved by becoming Catholic.

          What I remind them is that Lutherans and Reformed were confessional. To look at American evangelicalism and read its anti-creedal and anti-confessional approach back into the Reformation, which many Roman Catholics do, is a-historical at best, and is often due to honest ignorance of just how much the Reformers had in common with Roman Catholics.

          Confessional Protestants are not Arians. We are not Donatists. We do not teach “no creed but Christ.”

          Are there evangelicals who do teach such things, or fail to equip their people to respond to such things? Yes.

          Failure to teach on them leads to American evangelicals who are not confessionally grounded becoming prey to Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and other groups. While I don’t put Catholics in that category, it’s a simple fact that evangelicals who are looking for a deeper understanding of biblical Christianity and who could be finding it in Reformed or Lutheran theology are often attracted to Roman Catholicism for reasons that should be leading them to Geneva, not to Rome.

  5. Evan,

    I honestly do not know whether “Simony” has both a less-technical and more-technical sense; I have encountered it both ways. Were I writing a polemical piece, I would need to check that, so thank you for the heads-up. In this piece, I was merely listing (with brief commentary) the dozen items that Dr. Schreck and I both agreed needed to be examined.

    tdg

  6. Trent does abolish “prauos quæstus” from the granting of indulgences in Sessio XXV, by which is intended sale, or at least sale for personal gain.

    Wouldn’t Simony more accurately refer to buying holy office, rather than buying or selling an indulgence?

Leave a Reply to Phil DAmato Cancel Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Comments are welcome but must observe the moral law. Comments that are profane, deny the gospel, advance positions contrary to the Reformed confession, or that irritate the management are subject to deletion. Anonymous comments, posted without permission, are forbidden. Please use a working email address so we can contact you, if necessary, about content or corrections.

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.